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VBACing Against the Odds

So many women tell me how brave I was to have a homebirth, let alone a home birth after cesarean (HBAC.)  But I think the real heroes are the women who manage a vaginal birth, especially after a cesarean, in a hospital.  The deal is so stacked against you and many women find that they have to actually fight during labor.  I can’t imagine having the mental clarity and physical capacity to argue during labor.

As I read this victorious, inspiring birth story, I kept on wondering if I would have been able to be as strong, fight as hard, and actually VBAC against the odds.

She is pressured a couple times to augment her labor with Pitocin.  I find it so ironic that OBs and hospitals present VBAC as such a risky “procedure,” but then voluntarily increase that risk augmenting labor.  The Landon 2004 study found that uterine rupture rates for spontaneous (starting naturally with no drugs to hasten dilation) labor to be 0.4%, but when labors were augmented, the rates went up to 0.9% and when women were induced it was 1.0%.  (Click here for the chart.)  So, if 0.4% is already such a big risk, why increase that risk?  Especially when, as her OB ultimately admits, both her and her baby were fine, so there was no reason to “move things along” or perform a repeat cesarean.  Well, there was a reason, but it just wasn’t a medical one.  The clock was ticking and the OB had given her a “chance” to VBAC, but now the jig was up and it was time to be “realistic” and just have the cesarean.  Her story could have ended like thousands of other women who ended up with a repeat cesarean due to the unrelenting pressure, and sometimes lies, they received from their OBs and L&D nurses.

It’s a great birth story, and an excellent read, but if you want the quick version, I’ve included my favorite excerpts below.  This woman is a fighter and anyone who is planning a hospital birth can learn a lot from her experience!  I especially love her announcement of the baby’s birth.  She has such wonderful things to say about, and to, the hospital…

On lying to patients:

The new resident came in to check me and said I was at 5 cm.  I said “but the last doctor just said I was 7 cm – did I go backward?” He said “No, that can’t happen.  She was wrong, you were never at 7 cm.”

On augmenting her labor:

Then, my actual OB came in to see me for the first time and started telling me that we needed to consider augmenting my labor or giving me another c-section.  Then I started getting panicky.  I could see where this was going.

On having another cesarean for the OB’s convenience & scare tactics:

He said something about him having been there “all day” and wanting to go home, so I told him he better go on home and come back to check on me in the morning because I wasn’t going to end my labor just because his day was over.  Things started to get heated and I couldn’t believe I was even having that conversation.  It was obvious that he was annoyed with me, but I didn’t care.  So then he started with the scare tactics – “but the baby is becoming tachycardic” and “your water has been ruptured for more than 8 hours, you both might get an infection.”

Pressure to augment, again, and more scare tactics:

… just then a nurse came in who completely ruined our mood.  She asked me if I had considered Pitocin to get things moving.  I told her I wasn’t getting Pitocin, and she started arguing with me.   She said I should think about getting the baby out healthy, and I told her he was healthy.  I watched his heart tones all night long and he was perfect.  Then she said “Well, I’ve seen fetuses with good heart tones be born with APGARs of zero” – meaning dead.  I got pissed.  I couldn’t believe this woman just tried to throw a “dead baby” scenario in my face, especially when nobody is in any danger.

On being “on the clock” and “your body doesn’t work:”

Around 10-ish, my doc came back and said I’d had enough time and he wanted to do an internal pressure catheter.  I told him I was making progress and he said I hadn’t because I had been 7 cm since 5 pm the day before.  Now, that didn’t even make sense because he was the one who agreed with the resident the night before that I had never gotten to 7 cm.  Now he was saying that I had “stalled” at 7 all night.  He was getting very heated with me and kept trying to say that I needed to listen to him.  He said that my uterus – I kid you not – “just might not work” so I needed to have a c-section.  He said I’d had enough time and my “trial of labor” had failed.  He said it was a case of “failure to progress” at which point I shot back “No! It’s a failure to WAIT.”  He wanted to do an internal pressure catheter to measure the strength of my contractions, and if they were adequate it would mean that they obviously weren’t effective so I needed to be sectioned.  The other side of the coin was that my contractions were inadequate, which meant that he would give me 6 hours for them to become adequate or I needed to be sectioned.  Well, I didn’t like either of his scenarios.  I told him I just needed for people to stop stressing me out and let me labor.  He thought I was being “reckless.”

On arguing during labor, intimidation, waivers, and more scare tactics:

After 10 minutes or so of arguing back and forth, I told him I just wanted more time.  He left in a huff, and came back about an hour later with another doctor, telling me he had spoken to every doctor at that hospital, along with a doctor from another nearby hospital, and the hospital administration and I only had one of two “options.”  I either had to sign the c-section consent form, or sign a “Waiver of Liability” meaning that the hospital was no longer liable for whatever happened to me and the baby.  I couldn’t believe he was standing there threatening me.  I know my rights, and I told him so.  Nobody could force me to sign anything.

I couldn’t believe that there I was, having to deal with that while I’m trying to birth a baby.

John basically told him that I wasn’t signing anything, and that’s all there was to it.  The doctor then said that I was pretty much asking for my baby to be born with “cerebral palsy,” and started scaring John into submission.  He spouted off “statistics” to John about everything that may go wrong to cause us to have an unhealthy baby.

After all the scare tactics, the OB admits that everything is really fine:

The doctor had finally cracked, admitting to John that Baby’s heart tones weren’t worrisome, and said that he’d leave me alone to keep laboring as long as I promised to let them intervene if anything did become worrisome.

On “peaceful pushing” and questioning the motives of your OB:

Pretty soon, the room was filled with equipment and people; the stirrups were out, and the doctor was in position to catch the baby.  I had always hated the idea of pushing on my back, but there I was – feet in stirrups and nurses holding my legs back – pushing as hard as I could while the doctor yelled “PushPushPushPushPush!!”

I couldn’t concentrate on anything except how scared I was of something going wrong, and I knew that I had to get the baby out before the doctor invented another reason to section me.

On the difference between vaginal & surgical birth recoveries:

Within a couple hours I was up showering.  The difference in recovery between a vaginal and cesarean birth is like night and day.  We left the hospital 36 hours after Jules was born (the earliest possible moment that they’d let us go) and at only 3 days postpartum, I feel almost completely back to normal.  No, I feel much better than normal.  I feel like Superwoman.

On the feeling of victory:

The sheer thought that I got my VBAC, after 2 years of c-section depression and a 38-hour hard fought labor, is completely overwhelming to me still.  I wish every woman in the world could experience this feeling, and I hope all other women in my situation are able to have their VBACs too.

Rock on The Feminist Breeder!!

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7 comments to VBACing Against the Odds

  • teresa

    I absolutely LOVE this woman! I had a very similar situation with my first and only child (so far) that ended in a c-section. I was induced because I was “overdue” 3 days past 40 weeks. Given the pill to thin my cervix (3 times) then the pitocin and breaking of my water at only 4 cm. then the epidural after being there for 30 hours and so called no progression. My baby wasn’t ready! I regret my decision and it really bothers me everyday when I think of it not being how I planned.
    I had wanted a homebirth but my husband wasn’t on board with it due to fear and lack of experience, which he now regrets. so we decided to have her in the hospital to kind of see how things went and then have home births for our other children we would hope to have. Now I am faced with the VBAC situation and I want to birth at home so badly. I am not pregnant yet and it has only been 5 months since I delivered. To finish my experience, after I was dilated to 9 cm, the doctors came in telling me that I had been at 9 for too long and my water had been broken for too long and I either needed to get a c-section or it would most likely end up in an emergency c section which could make my baby deliver dead! They actually tried to scare me with a stillborn scenario! UGH! Oh yea forgot to mention that I first went in just to see if I was dilated at all because I thought I was having contractions which it turned out I wasn’t. Then they told me they wanted to induce me just because I was full term. they said I couldn’t leave. I left anyway to talk things over with my husband and eat some dinner and think about it. They even called me telling me I should come back that night because my baby could die if she was in there too long. The nerve!! Also when I left, I had to sign something saying I was leaving against medical advice. I wish I had refused. When we did return that even ing to get her heart beat checked and talk about maybe waiting a few more days,(and she was totally fine then too) they said that if I left again, my insurance probably wouldn’t cover the birth and/or the hospital could turn me away. Anyway, I opted for the c-section out of fear and scare tactics and 40 hours of drugs and about 10 different nurses checking me and being wrong with the number as well. I was told 4cm, then 5cm, then 4 by another nurse) and I knew I should have gone with my gut in the first place and had her at home. The only good thing out of it, a beautiful healthy daughter. 8 lbs 8 oz. I think she was just taking her time and wasn’t ready, we forced her then scared her by cutting her comfy little home open and pulling her out. :{
    I’m really trying to get over it but I wish there was something I could do to stop these doctors from being able to do this to people. I hope to have a VBAC at home and plan to wait for a couple years to hopefully increase my chances of success without complications. Wish me luck! :} Thanks for posting all these helpful articles and information. It is really inspiring. I can do it, and I will! GO VBACs

  • Does anyone know of any Chicagoland Hospitals and/or doctors that are really supportive of VBACs? I had a c-section for my first pregnancy and I’m due with my second in May. I’m planning on having a VBAC (I probably didn’t need the c-section in the first place) at Lutheran General Hospital in Park Ridge. The two doctors at the practice I go to don’t seem that enthused about doing a VBAC and they both have spent lots of time drilling the risks into my head. It seems they are trying to talk me out of it. Any doctors references you can provide in the North or Northwest Suburban area would be much appreciated!

    Megan, I’m so sorry you are going through this, but I’m glad your OBs are telling you what they are all about. They don’t support VBAC. Better now than at 38 weeks. :) I personally don’t know any OBs in Chicago, but I can point you in a couple directions. First please check out The Feminist Breeder who is out of Chicago and is starting up a VBAC support group. Also, please read Finding a VBAC Supportive OB or Midwife which will give you a list of groups, “in real life” as well as on-line, who can help. Please keep me posted okay? Take care, Jen

  • During my first VBAC the nurses argued with me about getting Pitocin. (It seemed like that entire birth was managed by nurses. My OB was supposedly around somewhere, but I never saw him. The only doctor I did see was the one who rushed in to catch my son at the very last minute.) I told them that my OB had made it very clear to me that getting Pitocin during a VBAC was dangerous, but they insisted that *he* had ordered me to have it. I flat out refused — the cascade of interventions that resulted in a c-section during my first birth had started with Pitocin.

  • Larissa

    Hi there, im trying to go into the link at the top for the “victorious, inspiring birth story”. It wont seem to work for me. Does anyone have another way i can get to it?? Thanks :)

  • A

    I was told that I would be able to have a VBAC until I was 6 months along.. Then they changed their “policies” and said that I had to have a c-section (I was 8cm with my first when I got the the hospital only for them to realize when they went to break my water that he was breech). I was determined to have my little girl naturally, as I went through the labor, until I had to have a c-section with my first). They fought me with everything they had when I refused to have them cut me open for no reason at all. I had my little girl completely natural.. Best decision I ever made was to refuse the cesarean. Do what you feel is best for you and your precious blessing.

  • Aaa

    I totally understand what you all have been through. I had the same experiences with the scare tactics and all. It wast my first child had a very healthy pregnancy…I was two weeks overdue and I was induced with every measure possible from Cervadil to pitocin. I was in labor for 26 hours and 9.5 cm dilated when they scared me and my entire family into making the decision to section. The doctors were horrible to my family. Completely and utterly disrespectful. I wish I had been strong enough to refuse and I had enough info. Next everything will be different! And to top it all of my OB at my 6 week check-up had the nerve to say I am one of the best candidates to have a normal delivery the next time around.

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