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		<title>By: Jen from vbacfacts.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen from vbacfacts.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angie,

Thanks for your comment.  I wrote my reply &lt;a href=&quot;http://vbacfacts.com/2010/01/20/reply-turned-post-you-say-this-is-for-the-number-crunchers-but-i-find-that-rather-laughable/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Warmly,

Jen</description>
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<p>Thanks for your comment.  I wrote my reply <a href="http://vbacfacts.com/2010/01/20/reply-turned-post-you-say-this-is-for-the-number-crunchers-but-i-find-that-rather-laughable/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Warmly,</p>
<p>Jen</p>
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		<title>By: Before You Schedule Your Repeat Cesarean Learn About VBAC &#171; Doula Momma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Before You Schedule Your Repeat Cesarean Learn About VBAC &#171; Doula Momma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Emma Mckay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma Mckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for all the information, I am in tears.

I have held off having another child, due to a 52 hour labour and a c-section.
Fear took over me, as doctors lied and told me different stories.
My &#039;natural contractions stopped because of fear and lies.
One doctor looked at his watch and told me he wanted to go home.
I live in a small town, so the nearest hospital is 60 kms away, the doctor here told me I had to go to the hospital, as my waters had broken and I had no contractions within 24 hours,so I was &#039;high risk&#039; for infection.
No-one wanted to help me here, plus it was late, I already called the doctor from her warm bed.She sent me off to hospital as a high risk, when I arrived at the &#039;big&#039; hospital, a nurse walked in and said, &quot;take your clothes off, we&#039;ll induce oyu and get ready for a c-section&quot;....No hello or how are you can I get you anything.
There were rips in the curtains, it was lit with fluorescent lights and I had to share a bathroom with the lady next door who I had to listen to give birth.
I was so afraid at this stage, that I had no choice...If I was a weak woman, I would have said &quot;okay&quot; and not known any thing &#039;un natural about this.
When I said &quot;NO&quot; to the nurse, that I was having a vaginal birth, she walked out and 5 minutes later in came a doctor, who said and I quote &quot;What are you doing here then if you think you are to have a vaginal birth considering your waters broke over 24 hours ago, and you have had no movement as yet&quot;....then he said, &quot;Oh let me guess the Doctor in your town was^$#$&amp;^**&gt;&gt; and she couldn&#039;t be bothered with you so she sent you here, am I right that it was doctor #@#%&amp;$^*&amp;&amp;&gt;&gt;??&quot;
I fell apart after I asked him to &quot;**ck off and get me a new doctor&quot;!!!!

There was no hope for me, I was scared by this stage, I was quite happy at home with my partner and doula, my best friend....We lay around eating and preparing and we went for a walk.
If I had of known that I could have been given antibiotics; against the possibility of having an infection, due to my waters breaking in my small town from the doctor on call that night, perhaps I would have stayed calm and in my space rather than panicked and fearful that I had the infection and I must go straight to hospital to get rid of it,otherwise my baby could die...

I am so disgusted with Doctors, and even more disgusted with the lack of choices women have with something that should be and can be so beautiful, therefore it should be out decisions on ho and where we choose to birth.

After I had my c-section, I came home with &#039;golden staff&#039; which I had got from the hospital, my weeping cut was getting worse, I had to go on antibiotics for nearly two months, finally the doctor said that I had to go back to hospital and they were to re-open my scar and sew it up again as the puss from the infection and the hole was getting too big, not to mention that my poor little baby girl was taking in so much of my pain and fear and drugs, I was bed ridden.
I refused and stopped the antibiotics and went onto homeopathies, a concoction I made up myself, one for wounds one for fear and one getting better. Within 3 days my wound was healing and getting smaller, with in 1 week it had closed, all the puss was gone...

Anyway, my partner and I are trying now for another baby, as my little girl now 4 tells me &quot;she is ready for a baby sister&quot;, I just hope that through this pregnancy I will cure myself from the trauma that I had to endure unnecessarily.
This has shattered my world, my being for so long, I want to be free and positive and know that it wasn&#039;t my fault or my bodies fault, that I am a strong woman who can give birth vaginally with out doctors interfering and telling me differently.
I want the old me back....GO VBAC.........I can do this!!!!!!
Thanks for letting me use this site for letting go a little more...
Emma Mckay from Denmark Western Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for all the information, I am in tears.</p>
<p>I have held off having another child, due to a 52 hour labour and a c-section.<br />
Fear took over me, as doctors lied and told me different stories.<br />
My &#8216;natural contractions stopped because of fear and lies.<br />
One doctor looked at his watch and told me he wanted to go home.<br />
I live in a small town, so the nearest hospital is 60 kms away, the doctor here told me I had to go to the hospital, as my waters had broken and I had no contractions within 24 hours,so I was &#8216;high risk&#8217; for infection.<br />
No-one wanted to help me here, plus it was late, I already called the doctor from her warm bed.She sent me off to hospital as a high risk, when I arrived at the &#8216;big&#8217; hospital, a nurse walked in and said, &#8220;take your clothes off, we&#8217;ll induce oyu and get ready for a c-section&#8221;&#8230;.No hello or how are you can I get you anything.<br />
There were rips in the curtains, it was lit with fluorescent lights and I had to share a bathroom with the lady next door who I had to listen to give birth.<br />
I was so afraid at this stage, that I had no choice&#8230;If I was a weak woman, I would have said &#8220;okay&#8221; and not known any thing &#8216;un natural about this.<br />
When I said &#8220;NO&#8221; to the nurse, that I was having a vaginal birth, she walked out and 5 minutes later in came a doctor, who said and I quote &#8220;What are you doing here then if you think you are to have a vaginal birth considering your waters broke over 24 hours ago, and you have had no movement as yet&#8221;&#8230;.then he said, &#8220;Oh let me guess the Doctor in your town was^$#$&amp;^**&gt;&gt; and she couldn&#8217;t be bothered with you so she sent you here, am I right that it was doctor #@#%&amp;$^*&amp;&amp;&gt;&gt;??&#8221;<br />
I fell apart after I asked him to &#8220;**ck off and get me a new doctor&#8221;!!!!</p>
<p>There was no hope for me, I was scared by this stage, I was quite happy at home with my partner and doula, my best friend&#8230;.We lay around eating and preparing and we went for a walk.<br />
If I had of known that I could have been given antibiotics; against the possibility of having an infection, due to my waters breaking in my small town from the doctor on call that night, perhaps I would have stayed calm and in my space rather than panicked and fearful that I had the infection and I must go straight to hospital to get rid of it,otherwise my baby could die&#8230;</p>
<p>I am so disgusted with Doctors, and even more disgusted with the lack of choices women have with something that should be and can be so beautiful, therefore it should be out decisions on ho and where we choose to birth.</p>
<p>After I had my c-section, I came home with &#8216;golden staff&#8217; which I had got from the hospital, my weeping cut was getting worse, I had to go on antibiotics for nearly two months, finally the doctor said that I had to go back to hospital and they were to re-open my scar and sew it up again as the puss from the infection and the hole was getting too big, not to mention that my poor little baby girl was taking in so much of my pain and fear and drugs, I was bed ridden.<br />
I refused and stopped the antibiotics and went onto homeopathies, a concoction I made up myself, one for wounds one for fear and one getting better. Within 3 days my wound was healing and getting smaller, with in 1 week it had closed, all the puss was gone&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, my partner and I are trying now for another baby, as my little girl now 4 tells me &#8220;she is ready for a baby sister&#8221;, I just hope that through this pregnancy I will cure myself from the trauma that I had to endure unnecessarily.<br />
This has shattered my world, my being for so long, I want to be free and positive and know that it wasn&#8217;t my fault or my bodies fault, that I am a strong woman who can give birth vaginally with out doctors interfering and telling me differently.<br />
I want the old me back&#8230;.GO VBAC&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I can do this!!!!!!<br />
Thanks for letting me use this site for letting go a little more&#8230;<br />
Emma Mckay from Denmark Western Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You give statistics but don&#039;t list any of the sources. If you want to lend any kind of credibility to this article you really should consider actually posting where you got your information from. Not to mention some people consider it plagiarism :)

All I see in this article is &quot;I say home birth is awesome. These women agree with me because they had bad experiences in the hospital. Home birth is the best.&quot; You say this is for the number crunchers but I find that rather laughable. I see only a few numbers that actually matter and, like I said before, you don&#039;t say where these numbers came from. For all I know they are made up. If I was a true number cruncher interested in only facts and unbiased information then I most definitely would find this article completely useless. Numbers are supposed to be unbiased information, though they can be twisted, and this article is anything but. I would be far more impressed by an article that can show numbers AND an unbiased point of view. If home birth is as safe as you say then you needn&#039;t go on a raging rant in your article about how it&#039;s so amazing because the numbers and statistics would say it for you. 

Nice try though, E for effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You give statistics but don&#8217;t list any of the sources. If you want to lend any kind of credibility to this article you really should consider actually posting where you got your information from. Not to mention some people consider it plagiarism <img src='http://vbacfacts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>All I see in this article is &#8220;I say home birth is awesome. These women agree with me because they had bad experiences in the hospital. Home birth is the best.&#8221; You say this is for the number crunchers but I find that rather laughable. I see only a few numbers that actually matter and, like I said before, you don&#8217;t say where these numbers came from. For all I know they are made up. If I was a true number cruncher interested in only facts and unbiased information then I most definitely would find this article completely useless. Numbers are supposed to be unbiased information, though they can be twisted, and this article is anything but. I would be far more impressed by an article that can show numbers AND an unbiased point of view. If home birth is as safe as you say then you needn&#8217;t go on a raging rant in your article about how it&#8217;s so amazing because the numbers and statistics would say it for you. </p>
<p>Nice try though, E for effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra Orchard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra Orchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for everything you are doing to change the state of birth in the US.  I had a home birth after two cesareans and I am working to empower mothers to find out the truth about their choices and their ability to bring their babies into the world.  I am always referring people to your articles because you bring logic and statistics to issues that are emotionally charged.  Thank you so much!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for everything you are doing to change the state of birth in the US.  I had a home birth after two cesareans and I am working to empower mothers to find out the truth about their choices and their ability to bring their babies into the world.  I am always referring people to your articles because you bring logic and statistics to issues that are emotionally charged.  Thank you so much!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ladya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ladya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello to all the women who are making strides for all the womqn across the globe. i support  vbac 1000% and more. I  had a VBAC after 2 c&#039;s it was wonderful but Drs were difficult. I am pregnant again due in two weeks and ready , I would like to a home birth but we dont have midwives that does home birth in the bahamas. All the smae women search , be confident and believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello to all the women who are making strides for all the womqn across the globe. i support  vbac 1000% and more. I  had a VBAC after 2 c&#8217;s it was wonderful but Drs were difficult. I am pregnant again due in two weeks and ready , I would like to a home birth but we dont have midwives that does home birth in the bahamas. All the smae women search , be confident and believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Aseron, CPM (Fawley)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Aseron, CPM (Fawley)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great article! I could not agree more. I will have to make sure moms I work with are aware of this resource.
Kate, very HBAC friendly CPM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great article! I could not agree more. I will have to make sure moms I work with are aware of this resource.<br />
Kate, very HBAC friendly CPM</p>
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		<title>By: Бързи факти &#8211; VBAC vs. ресекцио &#171; Zozima&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Бързи факти &#8211; VBAC vs. ресекцио &#171; Zozima&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to thank the woman who created this website -- every article is so well written that even the really long ones, I have to just bookmark and come back to when I have a second. I have had two c-sections now, both unplanned (first was after baby was found to be breech, water broke naturally; second was due to decelerations and the hospital/doctor policy to not induce with a previous c/s -- which I don&#039;t disagree with, though I&#039;m sad it had to happen). I would love to have a third child, but am now caught trying to find the healthiest safest way to birth after two cesareans. I would love it if you could add a VBAMC article somewhere in here -- I know the research is a bit more complicated, but you seem to sleuth out the best parts and make it digestible. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to thank the woman who created this website &#8212; every article is so well written that even the really long ones, I have to just bookmark and come back to when I have a second. I have had two c-sections now, both unplanned (first was after baby was found to be breech, water broke naturally; second was due to decelerations and the hospital/doctor policy to not induce with a previous c/s &#8212; which I don&#8217;t disagree with, though I&#8217;m sad it had to happen). I would love to have a third child, but am now caught trying to find the healthiest safest way to birth after two cesareans. I would love it if you could add a VBAMC article somewhere in here &#8212; I know the research is a bit more complicated, but you seem to sleuth out the best parts and make it digestible. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Gigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had one C section-primary- after coercion of my doctor to induce me at week 38, for no reason apart his convenience. He said week 38 was the optimum week to give birth, so why wait?
I found that in the hospital Mitera in Athens, Greece that is common practice. They induce week 38, allow you to labour for 4-5 hours and if you do not give birth by then, they c sect you!
What a wonderful birthing culture!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had one C section-primary- after coercion of my doctor to induce me at week 38, for no reason apart his convenience. He said week 38 was the optimum week to give birth, so why wait?<br />
I found that in the hospital Mitera in Athens, Greece that is common practice. They induce week 38, allow you to labour for 4-5 hours and if you do not give birth by then, they c sect you!<br />
What a wonderful birthing culture!</p>
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		<title>By: Shari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had one C (42 weeks after long labor / failure to progress).  Then one VBAC (41 weeks, pitocin induced chubby 9 lb 2oz girl!)  I had my heart set on another VBAC and have made it clear to my OB from day one. He gave it lip service.  I have very well controlled gestational diabetes, no insulin, baby is not apparently big yet at 34 weeks.  Well, at my 33 week appt my OB told me they no longer do pitocin inductions under any circumstances for VBAC.  I&#039;m an engineer and huge number cruncher, not usually prone to &quot;new-agey&quot; things like home births.  I understand exactly the increased risk but still believe a woman should be able to choose that risk versus choosing the risks of a c-section.  My problem is that I&#039;ve never dilated or gone into labor on my own, and was thinking Pitocin was probably my only chance.  Right now I am seriously considering a homebirth just so I will be given the full 42 weeks to try, instead of the new &quot;40 week 3 day&quot; rule they are starting to propagate before trying to force a c-section.  I also am so tired of FIGHTING!  I had to fight so hard for my first VBAC, and now I will have to fight even harder because of the new rules.  I believe both my baby and I are healthy, and assuming there is not a huge problem in the end game, I should be able to push out another gorgeous little baby in the privacy of my home.  Still a little chicken to try it.  Main worries are potential of uncovered insurance costs and of course emergencies.  Am seriously considering and meeting with a midwife for the first time tomorrow.  Thank you for the articles, recent updates, and encouragement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had one C (42 weeks after long labor / failure to progress).  Then one VBAC (41 weeks, pitocin induced chubby 9 lb 2oz girl!)  I had my heart set on another VBAC and have made it clear to my OB from day one. He gave it lip service.  I have very well controlled gestational diabetes, no insulin, baby is not apparently big yet at 34 weeks.  Well, at my 33 week appt my OB told me they no longer do pitocin inductions under any circumstances for VBAC.  I&#8217;m an engineer and huge number cruncher, not usually prone to &#8220;new-agey&#8221; things like home births.  I understand exactly the increased risk but still believe a woman should be able to choose that risk versus choosing the risks of a c-section.  My problem is that I&#8217;ve never dilated or gone into labor on my own, and was thinking Pitocin was probably my only chance.  Right now I am seriously considering a homebirth just so I will be given the full 42 weeks to try, instead of the new &#8220;40 week 3 day&#8221; rule they are starting to propagate before trying to force a c-section.  I also am so tired of FIGHTING!  I had to fight so hard for my first VBAC, and now I will have to fight even harder because of the new rules.  I believe both my baby and I are healthy, and assuming there is not a huge problem in the end game, I should be able to push out another gorgeous little baby in the privacy of my home.  Still a little chicken to try it.  Main worries are potential of uncovered insurance costs and of course emergencies.  Am seriously considering and meeting with a midwife for the first time tomorrow.  Thank you for the articles, recent updates, and encouragement.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Tuteur, MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Tuteur, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Women choose to give birth in hospitals because they believe it is “safer” than birth outside the hospital. &quot;

Birth in the hospital is safer. The only people who appear to be unaware of this are homebirth advocates. All the existing scientific evidence and the existing state and national data show that homebirth has an increased rate of neonatal death compared to hospital birth for comparable risk women. Sure, there are papers that claim to show that homebirth is as safe as hospital birth, but they do that by comparing low risk homebirth to high risk hospital birth, or low risk homebirth to hospital birth in decades past. The Johnson and Daviss BMJ 2005 study ACTUALLY shows that homebirth with a CPM in 2000 had a neonatal death rate almost triple that of hospital birth in 2000.

According to the Linked Birth Infant Death 2003-2004 dataset recently released by the CDC, the most dangerous form of PLANNED homebirth in the US is homebirth with a DEM.

&lt;em&gt;Dr. Amy, Thank you for your comment.  My reply is a little long, so I&#039;ve included it &lt;a href=&quot;http://vbacfacts.com/2008/09/07/rebutting-dr-amys-information/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  Best, Jen&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Women choose to give birth in hospitals because they believe it is “safer” than birth outside the hospital. &#8221;</p>
<p>Birth in the hospital is safer. The only people who appear to be unaware of this are homebirth advocates. All the existing scientific evidence and the existing state and national data show that homebirth has an increased rate of neonatal death compared to hospital birth for comparable risk women. Sure, there are papers that claim to show that homebirth is as safe as hospital birth, but they do that by comparing low risk homebirth to high risk hospital birth, or low risk homebirth to hospital birth in decades past. The Johnson and Daviss BMJ 2005 study ACTUALLY shows that homebirth with a CPM in 2000 had a neonatal death rate almost triple that of hospital birth in 2000.</p>
<p>According to the Linked Birth Infant Death 2003-2004 dataset recently released by the CDC, the most dangerous form of PLANNED homebirth in the US is homebirth with a DEM.</p>
<p><em>Dr. Amy, Thank you for your comment.  My reply is a little long, so I&#8217;ve included it <a href="http://vbacfacts.com/2008/09/07/rebutting-dr-amys-information/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  Best, Jen</em></p>
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		<title>By: Maryn Leister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maryn Leister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had this sent to me a few days ago:

http://www.indiebirth.com/2008/09/02/a-vbac-story/

Change is coming... :)

Keep spreading your message.

-Maryn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had this sent to me a few days ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.indiebirth.com/2008/09/02/a-vbac-story/" rel="nofollow">http://www.indiebirth.com/2008/09/02/a-vbac-story/</a></p>
<p>Change is coming&#8230; <img src='http://vbacfacts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keep spreading your message.</p>
<p>-Maryn</p>
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