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Jen Kamel, VBAC Facts Founder/Director

Jen Kamel, VBAC Facts Founder/Director

What is the mission of VBAC Facts?

Due to the twenty year gap between research and practice, many Americans still think “once a cesarean, always a cesarean,” even though the American College of Obstetricians & Gynecologists (ACOG) and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) are clear: VBAC is a safe, reasonable, and appropriate option for most women with one prior cesarean and some women with two prior cesareans.

The mission of VBAC Facts is to close the gap between what the best practice guidelines from ACOG and the NIH say about VBAC and repeat cesarean and what people generally believe.  While making information relative to post-cesarean birth options easily accessible to the people who seek it, VBAC Facts strives to create a deep understanding of  “the why” by providing political and historical context of the current VBAC climate as well as medical and scientific context for understanding obstetrical risk and evaluating birth-related research. VBAC Facts is an advocate for accurate and fair information and does not promote a specific mode of delivery, type of health care professional, or birth location.

What topics does the workshop discuss?

Developed and presented by Jen Kamel, Founder/ Director of VBAC Facts, “The Truth About VBAC: History, Politics & Stats” delivers an evidence-based and unbiased review of interesting, pertinent, and hard to find information relative to post-cesarean birth options. It is a solid 6 hours featuring a fully-cited compilation of statistics, analysis, recommendations, and observations directly from respected medical journals, professionals, and organizations such as ACOG & the NIH.

This comprehensive workshop answers many questions such as:

  • What are the current VBAC guidelines?
  • Why are VBACs banned in one-half of American hospitals?
  • What is uterine rupture and what are the factors influencing a woman’s risk?
  • What is the “immediately available” recommendation and how does it impact access to VBAC?
  • How can I identify a strong medical study?
  • Is it possible to plan a successful hospital VBAC?
  • How long should a woman wait after a cesarean until she gets pregnant again?
  • How do the risks and benefits of VBAC vs. repeat cesarean compare?
  • What are the outcomes for moms and babies?
  • What are the risks and benefits of out-of-hospital birth?
  • How does mode of delivery impact gut colonization?
  • What is the “VBAC double standard?”
  • What are the factors for understanding obstetrical risk?
  • How do you tell the difference between birth myths, scare tactics, and informed consent?
  • What are a patient’s legal rights when it comes to birth?

When and where will the classes be held?


Can I attend the workshop via a webinar (online class?)

Absolutely! Webinars are a great way for people around the world to attend the class right from their computer! VBAC Facts webinars do not require you to “call in” to a telephone number resulting in costly phone calls and/or the use of limited cell phone minutes. You can see Jen live and all her slides, hear her voice, ask questions, and interact with other class attendees directly from your computer. You can even enable your webcam, jump on the screen with Jen, and ask your question!

It is recommended that, while attending the class, you connect to your internet source via a network cable and not wifi for the best experience.

The next webinar series will be on Saturday December 6 & 13, 2014.  A video option is available.  More information.


Continuing education hours can be earned by attending the entire webinar, returning a completed evaluation form, and scoring 70% on a quiz within 30 days of attending the webinar.

Is a video of the workshop available?

Is it hard for you to find a 6 hour block of time? For those who work full time, have an unpredictable schedule, or are “simply” busy chasing small kiddos, the VBAC Facts Workshop Recorded Video is the perfect way to learn! Those who register will be emailed the link, which is valid for 30 days. You can start and stop all you want and watch it in 15 minute increments if that is what suits your schedule. Each account is allotted with enough time to be able to watch the entire class twice.  Continuing education hours can be earned by watching the entire video, returning a completed evaluation form, and scoring 70% on a quiz within 30 days of receiving your video links.

Who should attend?

The natural audience of this workshop includes:

  • medical providers such as nurses, midwives, and doctors;
  • birth professionals such as doulas, childbirth educators, and lactation consultants;
  • highly motivated parents including women who have had cesareans, their spouse/partner/support person, and other family members or supportive friends; and
  • other professionals such as hospital administrators, lawyers, public health professionals, journalists, academics, and researchers.

What is the “couples” ticket?

The couples ticket offers a discounted rate to the mother and her primary support person whether that is her spouse, significant other, partner, doula, sister, mother, or friend. The couples ticket is a per person rate so two tickets must be purchased.

Are there any discounted tickets available?

There are discounted early bird and couples tickets as well as financial aid available for WIC recipients.

Those that subscribe to the VBAC Facts Newsletter receive priority registration for all workshops giving them early access to these discounted tickets.

Will my male partner be comfortable?

This workshop is entirely “guy friendly.” There are no pictures or videos of women laboring and, surprisingly, not a whole lot of “vagina talk.”  The workshop features many charts, graphs, and numbers and the men who have attended have said that it really helped them frame the issue.

Plus, when guys get this info, they share it with their guy friends. It is so important to educate men as well as women about this topic because because it impacts them too! While childbirth has historically been considered within the “women’s realm,” that is changing as men realize that what happens to their female partners and children is drastically important to them as well.

Can I bring my children?

Nursing babies in arms are OK. Keep in mind that most people find themselves writing notes throughout the class. It might be helpful to bring your partner via the couples ticket so you can switch off baby holding and note writing! If your baby begins crying or is disruptive, you will need to step outside with them until they calm.

Do I need to be pregnant to attend?

If you have had a cesarean and are considering your birth options, the best time to collect information is before you get pregnant. Then you have time to conduct your research and assemble your birth team without a due date looming. That said, it is never too late to learn.

Is the goal of VBAC Facts to convince women to have a VBAC?

Mothers who are interested in attending do not have to be on the “VBAC track” as the class is not pro-VBAC or only for those already planning a VBAC.  As the class does not advocate for a specific mode of delivery and operates from a place of respect, women who are planning or leaning towards a repeat cesarean should not feel like that choice will be belittled, judged, or that the workshop’s objective is to convince them to make a different decision. This is their choice to make with their body and VBAC Facts agrees with ACOG’s assertion that two women can look at the same data and make different decisions.  There is not a “right” or “wrong” decision, only what is right or wrong for a specific woman.

More on the class’s tone.

Does the VBAC Facts offer any continuing education hours?

Yes! VBAC Facts is a Continuing Education Provider for the California Board of Registered Nursing.  Nursing Continuing Education Hours (CEs) are accepted by all RN boards, NARM, ICEA, Lamaze, DONA, and CAPPA as well as many other medical and health organizations.

Online workshop students must score 80% on a quiz in order to earn CEs.

Not all organizations accept nursing continuing education hours or CEs earned via on-line classes or videos. Check with your particular organization.

Provider approved by the California Board of Registered Nursing, Continuing Education Provider #16238, for 6.6 continuing education hours.

Upon completion of this program, attendees will be able to:

  1. Assess the quality of medical studies related to post-cesarean birth options and thus identify the strongest evidence,
  2. Describe the conditions where induction remains an option in a TOLAC,
  3. Describe the past and current factors that impact access to VBAC in America and brought rise to VBAC bans,
  4. Describe the factors that influence the rate of uterine rupture and VBAC success rates while understanding that there is no accurate “VBAC calculator” that can predict an individual woman’s success,
  5. Describe ACOG’s and the NIH’s stance on post-cesarean birth options.

There is a lot of confusion about what to call continuing education credits. Many people refer to them as CEUs, but only colleges and universities actually issue continuing education units. Dynamic Nursing Education clarifies:

[There are] common misunderstandings when it comes to the abbreviations [used to reference] continuing education for nurses, nursing continuing education CEs and CEUs. Nurses need Contact Hours or CEs to renew their nursing license. Nursing CEUs is often a misused abbreviation for Contact Hours. As stated by every BRN and accrediting body; a CEU is a Continuing Education Unit which is generally equal 10 Contact Hours or CEs and a CE is a widely accepted abbreviation for Contact Hour which represents 1 hour of lecture or study material. However, often times Nursing Continuing Education Providers use Nursing CEU when they should be using Nursing CE to represent the number of Contact Hours their course offering is worth. Basically, the only places that you can obtain CEUs are Colleges and Universities for classes that nurses take for undergraduate work as well as graduate work, not an individual course offering by a Continuing Education Provider. To summarize, almost all of the time when you see CEU being used it is being used inappropriately and those providers need to use the appropriate abbreviation, CE. Please be aware that; if for example you take a course through a Continuing Education Providers and their brochure and certificate states that their course is approved for 8 CEUs; what they really mean is that their course is worth 8 CEs or 8 Contact hours, not 80 CEs. We hope this helps clarify continuing education for nurses.

What feedback has the class received?

“Bravo! I absolutely loved the VBAC Facts Class– I learned SO much! Jen does an amazing job of summarizing the latest evidence on VBACs and repeat Cesareans in a way that is easy to understand. If you’re worried that Jen is going to try and talk you into a VBAC– well, that’s not how she does things. In this class, Jen simply presents accurate facts and lets the evidence speak for itself. Every woman and family needs to make the decision that is best for them. In this class, Jen has created a non-judgmental environment for people who are exploring their options. I strongly recommend this class to anyone who is interested in learning about VBAC!” – Rebecca Dekker, PhD, RN, APRN, Founder, Evidence Based Birth. Read Rebecca’s entire review.

“For practitioners or for women exploring their options after cesarean, Jen Kamel’s VBAC Facts Class is a must. VBAC is unique in that you have to understand more than just the science in order to wade through the myths and misinformation, and here is thorough, unbiased, and hard-to-find information on the subject as a whole: science, history, and politics. I wish every OB, L&D nurse, and midwife out there could sit through this class — and, even more important, that every woman out there who has had a cesarean had the opportunity to get the truth about what her options are and why they may be so artificially limited. This class has the power to change how we think about VBAC.” – Cristen Pascucci, Vice President, ImprovingBirth.org

“This webinar was just as valuable for me as it was to sit in four years of midwifery school!! You did an incredible job Jen and I just want to thank you again for all of the trillions of little (and big) labors of love (that I can only imagine) that went into birthing this. Everything you have pulled together is priceless and as a birth professional, brings a huge sigh of relief to me to know that others are out there just as passionate and just as dedicated to educating the people. This makes *my* work much easier as a birth professional.” – Serena Lynch, Midwife

Read more testimonials.

What do people say about the tone and content of VBAC Facts?

“Thank you so much for you clarity on the VBAC issue and the concerns surrounding it. As a CNM who does many VBACs (in hospital), I appreciate your efforts to spread factual, evidence- based information. I shared your website with the director of our Obstetrics department because I think you do a great job of gathering factual information for the lay public. He sent it out to everyone in the department! Job well done- keep it up!” – CNM, Caldwell, NJ

“I use your presentation of data frequently in teaching health education courses as an example of using study analysis correctly. Sometimes ‘interesting’ data is referred to as such as a means of getting related data discussed, not because it is particularly noteworthy as evidence. You do an exceptional job presenting research objectively and in context.” – Clinical Researcher (PhD), Chandler, AZ

“Jen I have mad respect for you. I send the link to your site to all moms who show an interest in having a vbac. I like the non biased information, it’s straight forward and simply awesome how you break the information down for women.” – SJM

Read more testimonials.

How far do people typically drive to attend the class?

The average person who attends the in-person class drives 47 minutes one way. 16% drive between 1 – 2 hours and 9% drive over two hours and there’s always a couple people who drive four hours or more. So don’t let distance be a barrier. That said, remember that the webinars are available so you can take the class from the comfort of your home and have a 30 second commute from the coffeepot to your computer.


Is there financial aid available?

There are a limited number of discounted tickets per class for WIC recipients (mother receiving WIC and her support person.) Financial aid tickets cannot be sold to transferred to another person. For more information, please contact VBAC Facts.

How can I contribute to the VBAC Facts Scholarship Fund?

Even though VBAC Facts is not a non-profit organization, financial aid is available for WIC recipients. The VBAC Facts Scholarship Fund was established in January 2013 and is made possible by generous supporters who wish to make the class available to a larger audience that may not otherwise be able to attend. When the fund depletes, financial aid will no longer be available, but you can help this program stay viable by making a contribution. Please note that as VBAC Facts is not a non-profit organization, your contribution is not tax deductible.

Scholarship recipients share why this program is important:

“I would love to actually experience the birth of my second child and the days following, instead of being incapacitated with pain and barely able to sit up to nurse my baby. This gives me the excitement and hope of a second chance to give birth naturally. ” – Mom with a prior cesarean & scholarship recipient, California

“I am so extremely grateful to have had the opportunity to attend the VBAC class. My first baby was born in April by a c-section. When the hospital staff came in to inform us that the doctor would want to do a cesarean, I burst into tears. My husband was also concerned as we knew we wanted lots of children and we were both informed that more than 3 c-sections was highly discouraged, and VBACs were rarely supported. My experience was very traumatic, so learning everything I could about VBAC births became a passion, as I was determined to prevent the same outcome for my future children. Thanks to the VBAC class, and Jen’s presentation, we now know more about VBACs than ever, and both my husband and I feel comfortable and confident with our choices that will affect our future births. We never would have had this amazing opportunity if it wasn’t for the scholarship fund. My husband is a student, so finances wouldn’t have allowed for either of us to attend otherwise. I am so immensely grateful. The information from this class has changed the way we will birth. Thanks Jen!” – Kearsten, Los Angeles, California

How can I bring “The Truth About VBAC” to my area?

If you would like to bring a VBAC Facts Workshop to your community, please review the Sponsor Agreement and submit an application as outlined in the agreement.

How can I be notified of future classes?

Subscribe to the VBAC Facts Newsletter and receive notice of new classes as well as the opportunity to register before the public. Your information will never be leased or sold and you can unsubscribe at any time. And no worries, you will not receive several emails a week.

What is the refund policy?

Your purchase is non-refundable. If the class is missed for any reason, attendees are welcome to attend the online VBAC Facts “Truth About VBAC” class. VBAC Facts online classes are pre-recorded, so you can watch them at your own pace.

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36 comments to Online Workshops

  • Tiffany Shackleford

    Iam a supporter of vbac and vbamc. I had a wonderful healing, empowering VBA3c on October 27, 2008, I was in active labor for 22 hrs, pushed for 20 minutes, Iam so thankful for all the research that was available, so I could make a decision on the birth of my son. Iam was glad to do the vba3c, I just wish I would have known my options earlier, I believe the other three c-sections could have been avoided especially them just being repeats from the first which was only done due to not dialating fast enough,which is not a medical reason to even perform a c-section.

  • Dr. Fischbein

    Hi, I support your efforts and wonder if you might be interested in collaborating on some programs in the future. Dr F.

  • Gladys

    Would you consider doing a class on skype with women in KY? Or in the east? I would love to participate but the distance doesn’t allow me! This web server is free and allows several people to talk live and see each other. Thanks, Gladys

  • Hi Jen! So cool to see that you’ve got some local classes coming up in the fall. We’re still doing VBACs over here at AquaNatal (because someone has to in our area, right?) and think it’s so great that you are working to get the word out about safe vbac options in the IE. I just saw your banner at Jodi’s PBi site, and was wondering if you wanted to do a banner exchange with us at AquaNatal … let me know what you think! =)

  • This class looks great. So glad it is being offered. I am interested in hosting a class in Santa Clarita.

  • Janet Moore

    I am glad to hear that someone is showing the statics of C-sections. I just had a VBAC in June, and while my first was a vaginal birth, it was so empowering to give birth to our third vaginally also!!

  • Sesmundo

    I’m a recent VBAC mother. My 2nd child was a C-Section two years ago last month. I was pleased to be offered a chance to do a VBAC by my Ob-gyn. I delievered a health baby girl last week (September 2009). Yes, you heard correctly – my ob-gyn prompted me to do a VBAC for my third child before I could ask him for a VBAC. That says a lot about the doctor that supports VBAC; its less drama for you. When the doctor supports you, that’s half the battle.

  • Dawn

    I had an emergency csection with my daughter in Aug 2007. I am due Nov 6th 2009 with our second….a boy this time. My doctor recommended the vbac for me. This is something I want to experience so badly! I have a lot of concerns about this because most doctors in my area refuse this procedure. I am happy I found this site so I can get as much info as I can!

  • Sandra B

    Can someone please calm my nerves for me? I have had two vaginal births, but my last one (April 2008) was a c-section due to dystocia. I am now 8 months pregnant with my baby being due on November 19th. My OB does do VBACS and the hospital I am going to be delivering at, does allow them as well (thank God). Anyhow, I signed a consent form at my last DR visit and it really scared me. I know the DR had me sign it in the event that something goes wrong, but it still scared me to death. Now I am all freaked out about uterine rupture and everything else.

    What makes matters worse is that I read an article on the internet which stated that certain factors increase the risk of uterine rupture. Some of those factors were maternal age (being over 30 which I am – I am 34), type of c-section scar (mine is the low horizontal one), and how long between pregnancies (I only had 10 months in between).

    Anyway, how on earth do I calm down? LOL

    I do not want another c-section. The one I had was awful! They couldn’t stop the bleeding and I was about to get a blood transfusion which I also did not want. I also did not like the effects that the epidural had on me. never again do i want a c-section.

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  • Trish

    Will you be offering any online courses again? I missed the ones you offered before. Thanks!

  • […] Facts – Jennifer, teacher of The Truth about VBAC classes, deeply believes that women, after educating themselves on the risks and benefits, should be the […]

  • I was just looking at your info cards/banners and saw the link to these classes. Have you ever thought about sharing your curriculum to have other CBEs, midwives, etc. do classes in other states? I’m in Oregon and would be very interested in offering some classes like this!

    • Jen from vbacfacts.com


      I have thought about that, but it would be to great of a project for me to undertake with my kids being so young. I am in the process of turning the class into a book so that I can still have complete control over content and tone, but people who live outside of Southern California can obtain the information. I am hoping to get a jump start while I fly cross country to attend the NIH VBAC conference in a couple weeks. I would also like to travel more and teach the class in person starting in 2011. I’d love to stay in touch and maybe you can host a class in 2011?



      • That would be great! I’ve wanted to do a VBAC class in my area for some time. Most of our area hospitals have an over 50% cesarean rate and none officially allow VBACs. There are 2 providers at a local hospital who will attend VBACs but only if the mom goes into labor before her due date and only if the baby is estimated under a certain weight – ugh!

  • Cherise

    I am also a doula and chilbirth educator in Mesa, Arizona that is VERY interested in holding a class like this here! I had a VBAC myself and know the power of information and a local advocate. I’m looking forward to your book – if you ever come to share your curriculum, please let me know! Thanks for what you’re doing!

    • Courtney B.

      I realize this is a few years old, but I too would appreciate. A workshop in Phoenix/Mesa area! I am studying to become a nurse midwife after a traumatic cesarean with the birth of my first child,… a result I know could have been prevented if I was at home! I live in Northern Arizona and am willing to market up here to increase the awareness of VBAC/HBAC in this area.

      • Jen Kamel


        I’d love to come to the Phoenix/Mesa area!

        Please review the Sponsor Agreement, which details the entire process of sponsoring a workshop, and return an application as detailed in the agreement.

        Right now, I am booked through Feb 2015. In July, I will be reviewing my next batch of applications for 2015 workshops.

        If you have any questions, let me know!



  • adriana

    hello i had a csection on november 28,2009. honestly my plan was to have my baby vaginally but my dr said she was too big for me and she was only 6 lbs, anyways i have a question and i really hope you can answer it for me, how many months after my csection can i get pregnant and have a VBAC??? is 5 months too soon???

    • Jen Kamel

      Hi Adriana!

      I’m so sorry that you had your cesarean for suspected big baby only to find that you had a small baby. Unfortunately, I’ve heard many similar stories from other women such as this one. Did you know that the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) only recommend a cesarean for suspect big baby when the baby is estimated to be 11 pounds or more? You can read ACOG’s Practice Bulletin No. 22 on Guidelines for Fetal Macrosomia published in the November 2000 issue of Obstetrics and Gynecology for more information.

      While I cover interbirth intervals in the class, I haven’t had a chance to type it all up in an article. The short answer is: evidence suggests that it’s best to have a 18-24 month interval between your cesarean birth and subsequent births. In other words, wait 9 to 15 months after your cesarean to get pregnant. That said, the studies that have been conducted are rather small, and it will be nice if/when larger studies are conducted so we have a better idea of the risk differential, if any, between births occurring less than 18 months post cesarean versus more than 18 months. I personally think it’s always a good idea to give your body plenty of time to heal and wait at least 9 months to get pregnant.

      You can read some of the studies available by looking for the terms ‘interbirth’ (time between cesarean birth and subsequent birth) and ‘interpregnacy’ (time between beginning of cesarean pregnancy and the beginning of subsequent pregnancies) by looking through my bibliography.



  • Christin

    I’m so bummed to see that these classes are on hiatus. I’ve been looking all over for a VBAC class and can’t seem to find one anywhere. I was pretty set on a scheduled C-section at the start of my pregnancy, but I’ve been doing a lot of reading online and I think I’ve decided to go for the VBAC. After looking at the hospital statistics on this website I’m considering switching hospitals and therefore doctors mid-pregnancy which is kind of scary, but I want to give my VBAC the best chance of success. I’m too scared to go for the homebirth and I don’t think my husband/family would allow it anyway. Thanks for the great info! I wish your book was out already.

  • Hi there,

    Just posting the date of my VBAC Preparation class for Irish Mums for the end of 2010 and first half of 2011.

    December 4

    Feb 5

    April 2

    June 12


    Please visit http://www.VBACIreland.com for more information


  • Julie Audet

    I would like to know how you register for this online class. I am in Canada, would the information be also applicable here? Hope to hear from you soon. :)

  • I’m in the Eastern Time Zone, which would have me hitting the hay around 1am each night of these webinar sessions (which, with a 4yo and 16mo at home sounds unwise). Is there any capacity to watch these after they’ve aired, so-to-speak, for those of us in inconvenient time zones?

  • Shannon

    Hi Jen,
    We’d love to register for next week’s class, despite that fact that class for us would start at 4am (we’re near Geneva in Switzerland!) I just want to check the timing with you, since I don’t know your location, only that you are on PST-please confirm that you are on Daylight Savings, which means that there should be a 9-hour time difference? Also, with two of us participating from the same computer, what is the cost, please?
    Thanks much, Shannon

  • Shannon

    Will do, under the name […], who is the second participant. Looking forward to your webinar! And thanks for all the great work you are doing to empower women and their partners in their birth choices;)

  • Are CEUs still pending? I would like to apply CEUs for DONA recertification. Thanks.

    • Jen Kamel


      I’m in the process of adding information from the 2012 Mic-Pacific Conference which means I will need to amend by application and miss the 6 week deadline. Hopefully I will be able to offer then for February 2013.



  • Stephanie

    Hi Jen,

    I am just wondering whether your webinars are available in Australia, and is there a cost involved?

    Warm Regards,

    • Jen Kamel


      People from Australia can absolutely attend! Cost is $85/person for the webinar and you can still register for the March series here. Upon registration, I will email you a link to the video of Part I, which we recorded last Saturday, and then you can join us live this Saturday at 9am PST or you can watch the video of Part II at your leisure. The video link will be valid for 30 days. Start and stop all you want. Everyone’s account is allotted with enough time so they can watch it twice.

      The next webinar will likely be the first two weekends in June. Join the elist to be notified as soon as registration opens.



  • Katharine

    Hi Jen,

    I just wanted to give 2 big thumbs up to you and your VBAC Facts Workshop. I was planning a VBAC for the birth of my 2nd child but had the typical fears of a rupture or other complications. At the advice of my doula, Dawn Thompson, I signed up for your online workshop to educate myself on the facts. It was great to be able to watch a little at a time (I typically watched 45 minutes to an hour every night), and by the end I was feeling completely confident in my ability to give birth naturally. I let my fears go and this past Saturday delivered my daughter vaginally, with no medical interventions (medication or induction), at 41 weeks. Thank you for giving me the confidence and tools that I needed!

    Sincerely, Katharine

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